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'General Hospital' Take Down: Ron Carlivati & 'Franco'

6/23/2013

 
PictureL-R James Franco & Roger Howarth (ABC)
After failed licensing negotiations in March with Prospect Park (the home of formerly cancelled soap, "One Life to Live”), ABC confirmed  that “One Life” actors Roger Howarth (Todd Manning), Kristen Alderson (Starr Manning) & Michael Easton (John McBain) would be portraying different characters on "General Hospital." Alderson & Easton's roles as Lauren Frank (Franco's daughter & lost Quartermaine heir) & Silas Clay (Stephen Clay's twin brother) were quickly revealed, but Howarth's role remained a lingering mystery with a lot of build up. GH fans gasped in awe with either subsequent anger or adoration when it finally came out that Howarth was the twisted and diabolical Robert "Franco" Frank. Immediate reactions focused on Howarth’s rendition (some felt his performance as Todd made him perfect for the part; others felt his Franco was too similar to Todd and began calling him “Franc-N-Todd”) and how James Franco, the herald actor who the role was originated by and named after, was shockingly replaced.

Feedback then turned to the storyline. Luring Jason Morgan's Port Charles connects with a party invite donning the presumed-dead hitman's image, Franco presented video evidence that he in fact didn't rape Samantha Morgan & never intended for Michael Corinthos to be raped in prison. He claimed previous footage indicating otherwise was planned to mislead and distress Jason. Franco also denied committing any murders for "artwork." Swiftly moving onto his shares at ELQ and moving into the Quartermaine mansion, he professed to be a changed man trying to make amends & reconnect with his daughter, Lauren Catherine (AKA “Kiki”). The once deadly “artist” now had a cleaner rap-sheet than Dr. Steven Webber. Some fans saw the "clean up" as a way to help the character be able to stay on GH, as Franco the way he was would make it hard for him to remain a free bird and function in Port Charles. Others felt Franco was made "too clean” and too easily moved into the Q mansion, implying the head-writer (Ron Carlivati, also formerly of “One Life”) was twisting things to the OL actors advantage. This advantage theory was first posed shortly after Carlivati and OL producer Frank Valentini took over in early 2012. Ratings for GH went up, but long-standing GH followers supposed the soap was becoming an OL spin-off. I saw where these viewers were coming from, but I was hesitant to believe there was any character favoring until Franco, Lauren & Silas came on the scene.

PictureSam's confronts Franco with his evil (ABC)
Before I dive head-first into my “advantage theory” observations, let me address a few other details related to the Franco reveal. I understand why Franco would use Jason to create his little “shin-dig” and that it would probably be a ratings boost to imply he knew something about Jason’s whereabouts, but JaSammer’s (fans of Jason & Sam as a couple) hearts were dragged right with Samantha’s into that business! One person even tweeted “I don’t care for Jason & Sam, but I think pulling on their fans legs like this was too much.” There have been a few “he might be alive” tricks pulled, but this one was the most grandiose and brutal. The other spec in my eye was how the topic of rape was handled for the next few days. I was glad Michael’s assault was FINALLY being discussed after being swept under the rug for so long, but we still haven’t aced tackling the issue in soap-opera land. Let’s add onto victim humiliation and terror by letting cats out of bags and showing videotapes in front of a whole group of people! At Franco’s “party,” Michael (played by Chad Duell) was all but forced to recount his attack amongst people who didn’t need to know and everyone got a visual of what lead up to Sam’s alleged rape (“TV Source” magazine further explores rape as a plot device in a great piece here).

Speaking of Sam (played by Kelly Monaco), just like Lacey Chabert couldn’t make fetch happen in “Mean Girls,” the writers are struggling to make Easton and Monaco happen. It feels just as forced, if not more than before. Instead of giving Easton a completely brand new character like his co-stars, the writers decided to be uninventive and redundant and create yet a third incarnation of John McBain. In a short span, Easton portrayed McBain, who had an inappropriate attraction and borderline fling with Sam that ended his OL marriage (a plotline that’s a part of Prospect Park’s breach of contract suit with ABC), then a man physically identical to McBain (Stephen Clay) who kidnapped Sam because she’s his dead wife’s doppelganger and now Clay’s twin, who is trying to take Sam’s foster child (Rafe) and will ultimately be the magic key to Danny (Sam’s biological son) surviving leukemia. Really? All of this because Easton and Monaco’s characters were a couple on the GH spin-off “Port Charles?” Homage to the defunct spin-off in the 50th anniversary year has been paid; let’s move on. Its bad enough they wrote Sam talking about her recently killed husband like he was a road-block to her next great love for Easton, which brings me finally to the advantage theory.

Picture"GH" head-writer, Ron Carlivati
There is just enough evidence to argue that Carlivati has every intention of making his former OL actors the new face of GH at the expense of the other original GH characters. We’ve already established that Franco is suddenly as pure as the driven snow; no one honestly has a real reason to hate him, relinquishing his villain status (when you’re no longer a villain, you’re someone the audience can love and root for). His daughter doesn’t even have a reason to hate him, and with Ava (Maura West) increasingly becoming shady and dislikable to Kiki, I’m the sure the “your mother kept you away from me, I wanted you” card is going to be played to the max until Kiki is rubbing elbows and sharing an ELQ office with Franco, like Michael is with AJ. ELQ is the biggest piece. Franco already has the upper-hand on Sonny & Carly, Monica barely fought letting him into the mansion and AJ & Tracy are disgustingly groveling at he and Kiki’s feet. Looking at the relish disaster Franco curated, it’s clear his sights are on an ELQ takeover. What further to make you a GH chief than running ELQ or being Corinthos-affiliated?

In relation to Corinthos affiliates, as I mentioned in my “General Hospital in 2013” post, the writers opted to transition out of the mob era by going to the extreme of downplaying , if not eliminating, its associated characters (then replacing their influence with OL actors). Jason nor Kristina have been recast and Bradford Anderson’s (who portrays Spinelli) contract has mysteriously dropped to recurring when there’s a huge bomb to be set off in his storyline. The long-awaited aged return of Morgan (Bryan Craig), Sonny’s sole biological child with Carly, seems to have only served as an entry vehicle for Kiki. Instead of a meatier (or more interesting) storyline where he was actually targeted by the Jerome mob family in GH history (Ava still does not appear to be related to them), he was assigned the role of smart-mouthed, annoying little brother with a gambling issue, while Kiki was immersed in one familial plot twist after another. The (again, more interesting) dynasty war we all hoped to see since Genesis between the real Corinthos heir and his half-brother Michael has turned out to be a childish and grossly incestuous love triangle that’s all about who? Kiki. I imagine it’s going to be even more about Kiki as AJ (Sean Kanan) won’t fall out with Michael because of something regarding substance abuse, Sonny or Carly (Maurice Bernard, Laura Wright), but blackmailing Kiki with the secret that she and Michael kissed. Yep, I’m guessing that he’ll manipulate Kiki’s board vote with that information and when Franco eventually finds out, he’ll make AJ pay, make extra head at ELQ and earn Kiki’s affection. There are additional subtle things fueling the “advantage theory.” When GH was announced for “Outstanding Drama Series” at the Daytime Emmy’s (June 16th), the clip that was played featured OL’s Tea` Delgado (Florencia Lozano) and Todd Manning (Howarth), not GH’s actor nominees ( such as Jason Thompson as Dr. Patrick Drake or Julie Marie Berman as Lulu Spencer-Falconeri) or characters who were prominent in 2011 or 2012 (ex. Monaco). In response, one person tweeted “foreshadowing.” Another thing I noticed was a GH Facebook link thumbnail for the article “General Hospital Nominated for 19 Daytime Emmys!” that displayed Alderson, Easton & Howarth. When you post a link on a fanpage, the computer offers suggested thumbnails based on images it finds on the page. On the nominations article, there was also the 50th anniversary cast portrait and a thumbnail of Luke & Tracy (Anthony Geary, Jane Elliott). There were 3 photo options, and the one with OL actors gets picked over vets? Hmm… Ron Carlivati is starting to look suspect.

Carlivati is also putting a bad taste in the mouths of fans online. If you watch his Twitter feed long enough, you will come across a sarcastic, if not a flat-out rude or condescending tweet to a fan from Mr. Head Writer. Granted, some viewers instigate a salty response by tweeting Carlivati insults, but I believe even those cases, things should be handled with grace and professionalism. You don’t even have to tweet Carlivati directly to get sassed; he sometimes tweets fans who use the “#GH” trend hashtag. He’ll also watch and comment on your personal feed. Some Twitter users have said they’ve gotten blocked after asking Carlivati simple questions like “why aren’t there more characters of color on GH?” Although GH’s social media pages have encouraged feedback and interaction (along with Valentini), Carlivati’s actions have made viewers hesitant and afraid to critique storylines. What’s a fan to do? At a time when ratings are so crucial and sensitive to the life of a soap, it looks like we’ll just have to sit back, watch and hope Port Charles doesn’t turn into Llanview? What are your thoughts?

Babs
6/24/2013 08:46:21 am

Excellent! Between the pandering to the Livers and the propping of Sabrina, I have turned it off. I don't recognize this show anymore. ME has essentially been given four characters on this show since last year and Frodd is on everyday. Patrick is some alien cupcake eating Pod to worship Sabrina while Robin languishes in captivity. Sometimes I feel like Cartini knows what is turning the audience off and takes that course of action as punishment for not towing their line.

Rachael
6/24/2013 08:53:07 am

I turned the show off in December. If I had wanted to watch OLTL, I would have when it was on the air. It's sad as a fan of General Hospital to have lost what joy and entertainment there was left because a new regime thought that by making a show "better", it meant turning it into the show they previously got cancelled.

When I turned off the dial in December, the GH characters were barely pushing story- it was either the Livers or newbies I didn't care for. And, when the GH vets were shown, they were written in a characterization that was unrecognizable. Nothing is character driven anymore either. Everything is written on the surface or off screen, so you're left to wonder why you're even supposed to care.

RC's GH is not for me.

Niki
6/27/2013 03:28:21 pm

I agree with everyone I hate general hospital its like watching one life to live I have turned off general hospital and will not turn it back on.if you want to see changes we the fans have the power stop watching the show the ratings will go down and it will get canceled by by ron carvelia. To all the fans of general hospital join me in boycotting the show the writers dont care about what the fans want why should we care about general hospital

sass
6/24/2013 08:58:46 am

a lot of said the same things a year ago. but no one wanted to hear it. now its a year later and too late to get any real changes to keep this show as GH. oh well either you love nuOLTL or you watch something else like a lot of us have already done

ellen
6/24/2013 04:57:21 pm

bullcrap

mesia
6/24/2013 09:19:46 am

I....really? Chhhhhhh you have entirely too much time on your hands

Angie
6/24/2013 10:14:34 am

I agree totally. I turned the show off after about 30 years of viewership. These writers have taken everything i love and destroyed it. I watched helpless as a story I had waited almost a decade for was handed to Micheal Easton including the birth of Jason Morgan's child. i will never be able to get past ths and see him as anything other than the one of destroyed my Jason and Sam love story. Franco is a joke and it is disgusting how they are whitewashing him. He is a rapist and serial killer, to rewrite that for Roger H offends me and i will not watch it one more day. Kiki is Starr with brown hair no difference.
I just want my show back, it's really sad what GH has become and they have made it very clear they do NoT want my viewership anymore.

MissyLady link
6/24/2013 11:39:49 am

Jason was there for Jake's birth.

Angie
6/24/2013 11:52:56 am

Jake who?

Fefe
6/24/2013 03:14:31 pm

I could not have said it better myself!!! I realize that Sam has to move on, since Steve made the choice to vacate the role of Jason (which despite the fact that no one is saying it is probably because RC and FV lied to his face when they came on board about their plans for Sam and Jason), but I digress, it's a slap in the fact to those of us that invested nearly 10 years on the couple to not let her have an appropriate grieving period!!! I can barely stand to turn the show on anymore, and I was a viewer since 1978!!

Lara
6/25/2013 01:22:18 am

I couldn't agree with you more Fefe! Jasam fans have invested 10 years of their lives and just as we prepared ourselves for the biggest payoff, it was stolen away from us just to prop Easton's character. I think Steve Burton has been very diplomatic in his answers as to why he left, but from fan events, it's clear that the writers betrayed him and literally pulled the wool over his eyes. His character of Jason was villainized in the wake of Sam's 'rape' and they wrote such b.s angst between them during what should have been the happiest time of their life. The writers spat in the face of the fans and did not once honor the fact that Sam and Jason had been trying to have a baby for years!! From conception to birth the parents to be got what amounted to one week of happiness. I don't think FV and RC (as much as they like to say) had or have GH's best interest at heart. They came in with their own agenda's of breathing new life into their dead soap using GH as the platform.

sarah
6/28/2013 11:42:52 am

As a viewer of 30yrs.....Michael having feelings for KILO makes me sick!

Eva M
6/24/2013 11:24:08 pm

I never liked OLTL now these people took over General Hospital! Just a matter of time after 30 years of watching ....I'll be turning it off

Jan
6/25/2013 03:26:37 am

I agree with Angie. I knew trouble was coming when OLTL characters started to infiltrate GH and suddenly the storylines where warped out of recognition. The dead coming back to life like death is nothing more than a vacation. I really dislike what has happened to GH and the loss of it's longtime characters that are supposedly 'dead' and gone, while other 'wish you were dead' characters keep coming back like like a never ending nightmare! To me it is an affront to long time GH fans and a convenient excuse for lousy scripts by the head writers! They have no imagination it seems and must use tired convoluted script rejects from 'other shows' to pass off as originals for GH! Your plan FAILED and if your intentions were to kill GH like OLTL & AMC, you had better try harder because we are not giving up GH without a fight.

sara
6/25/2013 06:20:17 am

I totally agree with you

Anne
6/28/2013 10:44:12 am

Spoken by a TRUE GH fan........very sad, isn't it. :(

BlueAugust
6/24/2013 10:16:20 am

I applaud your article. Spot on. The show is no longer GH. It's heartbreaking and sad.

Eva M
6/24/2013 11:26:52 pm

I agree BlueAugust

Cyberologist link
6/24/2013 10:44:12 am

I don't know where to begin I saw the show being turned into a pretzel for three characters from another show and newbies from nowhere given carte blanche to a fifty year old show while my fav vets like Elizabeth Webber were reduced supporting them with no real story or dialog of their own spending their time "discussing them in this case Sabrina" Who was on day after day after day.

..I waited for Robin's demise instead got endless beats played in Starr' story re: the demise of her boyfriend and child (whom I did not know) while Robin's story played out simultaneously got the bum's rush. Her funeral was downright embarrassing

A character from an iconic supercouple on the show since age 7. The nurses ball paid homage to a newbie from nowhere. These characters are highly marketed and brands the show. Its their show basically and just don't understand the writer's obsession with putting me through yet another entry onto the canvas..

The cast is bloated and its hard for me to keep up when I see characters disappear for weeks at a time while I'm watching flashbacks from scenes from yesterday. There is so much GH history that just isn't playing out it would take a dissertation to point out all the errors in details which reinforces to me that these writers do not know the heart and soul of GH. Sonny Corinthos does not fly commercial he has had a private jet since the 90's. I can go on and on but why bother?

Its clear to me the disrespect that has been given to GH fans since day 1 scene 1. I can't follow the storytelling anyway. I'm bailing out.

Jason Reese link
6/24/2013 10:59:37 am

Howarth needs to study the role. James Franco Portrayal, was one of General Hospitals best characters, ever.

daphne
6/24/2013 11:18:32 am

All so true! Stop the madness, RC!

Susan
6/24/2013 11:30:09 am

These jerks made it crystal clear that my viewership is not wanted. Im not going to go into detail cause the article says everything that needed to be said but IA with the Angie poster on the Jason and Sam story it was ruined and all in the name of Micheal Easton and for that reason I too will never support him on GH. I dont care who he plays. As far as Franco and Kiki.....what a joke and Sabrina needs to go. I honestly think ABC could careless about GH and that is why they have let these 2 destroy what was good. There is no other explanation. At this point who would care if it was canceled?

sharon
6/28/2013 11:24:07 am

All I know is it is not the actors fault and if any of you were true fans you would stand by no matter what. It is the producers who don't see eye to eye, yes it has gotten confusing but I will watch it regardless

curry-girl
6/24/2013 11:44:00 am

Totally agree with this article. I have tried to watch but I can't. I use to fast forward Franco, Kiki, and the doctor. This leaves maybe 10 or fifteen minutes left of the show, so I just stopped watching it. I just can't look at those previous one life to live actors as different characters in one month hiatus like the writers want me too. The blonde Franco is acting like Todd. Kiki is awful. The doctor and the pony tail are not working form me. I do not like this new and unimproved oltl. I want GH back.

MissyLady link
6/24/2013 11:48:49 am

GH was bound for cancellation in 2012 if not for the failure of The Revolution and GAA. RC/FV did everything that they could to keep the show on the air, and yes, the OLTL 3 are currently not working this time around. However, how much is the network pushing for certain stories or characters to be pushed front and center?

GH has seen more vets (Anna, Duke, Scotty, Laura, Lucy, Faison, Helena, Stavros, Bobbie, Robert, Heather, Frisco, Felecia, etc) in the last year than at any time in the last decade. Here's hoping the network figures out that Franco, Silas and Kiki are just not working and remove them from the show along with Connie, Olivia, Sabrina, and Shawn.

udhoop
6/24/2013 01:41:31 pm

This^

SoWhat
6/25/2013 12:16:55 am

Yeah he brought back vets for the 50th and rarely used them after. Read Jack Wagner's interview in SID. He sums it up nicely.

kellie fogg
6/25/2013 09:35:47 am

the interview with Jack Wagner in SID was sad for me. I do not recognize gh anymore. what RC/FV did to frisco was horrible . I waited 18 years for frisco to come back and what I saw on 4/8/2013 made me very sad. Knowing that Jack would have stayed longer then the 10 episodes he had done and that was not done. there is so much history between frisco and Felicia 29 years worth. then in one stroke of the pen RC destroyed such an iconic character. after that I am done with gh

Patti V
6/25/2013 05:38:20 am

I'm not so sure we would have seen the return of the past vets, had it not been the 50th anniversary, most of them would not have wasted their time. I hope they get the message and change things before it is too late and GH is cancelled, but it is possible that is what the Execs wanted all along and have purposefully cut the throat of GH by hiring the writers that caused the low viewership and cancellation of OLTL. Oh sure, I have been told they wrote a great ending to OLTL, but had the writing been stellar before hand, they would not have been cancelled in the first place. Viewers got Guza fired....we will get this one fired, or the show will get cancelled. We will see what means more the execs then, preserve your longest running soap, or take a risk with yet another cooking, talk or cheesy 'reality' train wreck.

rebecca
6/28/2013 11:14:25 am

OLTL did not have low ratings; in fact, it had higher ratings than GH when it was cancelled.

GH was not doing well and was in danger of cancellation soon after.

Everyone was thrilled with the new team when they brought back characters we hadn't seen in decades...and they have kept Anna, Duke, AJ, Lucy, Scotty, Laura, Nicolas is back on contract...Helena has made several appearances, Stavros...

For a while many fans complained that it had become the Sonny and Jason show...and now that they've incorporated other storylines and more people fans here aren't happy.

I was a fan of both shows so I'm not loyal to one over the other. I think GH has been good. Yes, I have some issues with it...but on the whole I think they've revived a show that was flailing.

As for the OLTL three...big deal. There are new characters and replaced characters on soaps all the time. If you can get over your resentment, you might actually enjoy them and let them meld into Port Charles.

chandler
6/24/2013 11:55:33 am

Totally agree with fan comments. No longer recognize the show. The livers get primo story lines and face time.

It is time to write to the sponsors. Let them know how disappointed we are and are no longer watching.

Sarah
6/24/2013 12:47:04 pm

Best article I have read since the 2 idiots invaded GH and destroyed the best soap ever, besides running off or releasing some of their best characters/actors. Fire them already!

Vicki
6/24/2013 01:28:29 pm

I do noyt thinik Caleb ios dead and i am tired of easton and Kelly

J.Says
6/24/2013 01:39:40 pm

@Angie: Wow! I didn't think about how Easton got handed the family storyline we all waited for Jason to have! Wish I would've thought of that. Thinking about that really agitates and disappoints me.

Angie
6/24/2013 09:49:58 pm

@J.Says

Not only that Jay but what kind of regime kills a character that has a 21 year history on said show and does ABSOLUTELY NO MEMORIAL ON SCREEN. It's asinine to me what has occurred on this show for these 3 former OLTL actors.

The reason Jason got no memorial was because they wanted Sam and John and it would hinder that if Sam was allowed to mourn a man she had loved since 2004, her husband and father of her child. Whether viewers were fans of JaSam, or just Steve Burton fans in another avenue, HE deserved more respect than to be shot in the back and kicked in the harbor with hardly anyone shown mourning him. It was rank,

Now to usher in Rogers return as Franco they go to Jason mentions to try to get people to watch. Suddenly Sam misses Jason, enter Silas, who i am sure will "comfort" her as no one else can RMES.

It makes me nauseous to think about Franco(dont care played by who) taking up residence in the Q mansion along with Kiki for heavens sake. Franco is BAD, I saw him step on a guys throat and kill him, he is a serial killer and a rapist because again i SAW what he did to Sam. Even if there was no penetration, he still sexually assaulted her and Jason too imo, He is unredeemable. Franco was not a clown, he was insane and evil.

If Q's are needed, why not bring back Dillion, Ned, Emily, Brooklyn. Why Kiki and to do a kissing cousins story is just wrong.

This show is so predictable. Of course Sam and Silas are going to become a couple, it's predetermined because they basically only share scenes with each other. And why??? because Kelly and Micheal were on Port Charles together over 10 years ago??? hey tptb Port Charles was CANCELEd because not enough people watched it and liked it??? get a clue, let it go, move on and do something else ..how about someone new and good looking for Sam, someone that i could understand her being attracted to, because i am sorry, but Micheal hasnt aged all that well and looks too old for Kelly.

What can we do tho, i have called, emailed everyone from Vicki Dummer on down, and stopped giving them my ratings. I feel like there is nothing to do at this point.

Maybe if we had a list of sponsors and their addresses we could let them know we are no longer watching and why.

Candace
6/25/2013 02:07:38 am

@Angie

Everything you've said is right on!! Those guys have NO freaking clue.
The reason Jason was shot in the back is because that's basically what they did to Steve. It's disgusting the way they treated him.

Lorelei310
6/27/2013 12:25:36 am

I agree completely! Where can we get a list of sponsors to voice our disapproval?

Lorelei 310
6/27/2013 12:51:05 am

@Screw-Do you REALLY think one person has the capability to start this?! Take a good look around the fan sites. More people than not do NOT like OLTL 2.0 otherwise once known as General Hospital. The bottom line is FV and RC have turned this show into an unrecognizable rotting ship and some players would rather leave then tread water! I can list almost half a dozen off the top of my head. The fact remains that TPTB can't hide their favoritism for their pets and don't like being called out on it! GH was nominated for 19 Emmys and yet only won 2! One for an actress (who won despite a lack of storyline BTW) left b/c she wasn't being respected and a well established character from another soap.
People want quality and based on the number of comment (about canceling the show) quality wins out over quantity everytime. As for Snarky McMoose and others (myself included) we have been nothing but upfront about our opinions! Everyone has a right to them including you. I hope for your sake GH continues because mine died the day Craptini took over!


udhoop
6/24/2013 01:43:27 pm

Sri Rao should have been the choice a year ago and should be the choice now.

Linny
6/24/2013 02:38:24 pm

This article was beautifully written and hit every point many of us have been talking about for the last year. I too, don't recognize this show anymore. It's certainly not the GH I've loved for the last 30 years.
A main story that Jason and Sam fans waited for for years and was finally happening, was ripped away from them and give to another actor, thus breaking more hearts than anyone knows. And I say that as not even a huge JaSam fan. I liked them, but they weren't my first choice. But I hated the way those fans were treated. It was just plain unfair!!
I'm tired of GH being OLTL west coast version. Something needs to change before we are saying good bye to the show we love because the RC & FV are trying to remake it something it's not.
I agree with just about all of the comments made here...this has to stop!!!

Amy
6/24/2013 02:51:42 pm

I turned off the show in May. It is no longer GH. There is no heart to the show just vague plot points that tell most of the story off screen. Even when you want to care it is impossible. When stories disappear for weeks at a time it is hard to get invested. I did not watch OLTL because it was to campy and outrageous. And now they are not only invading our show with the actors but also with the campy stories from a cancelled. soap. And you can't say anything to the headwriter about what you are not enjoying because he either insults you or just blocks you. It is much easier not to watch and I never thought I would not care to watch General Hospital. I once was so passionate about this show.

COURTNEY
6/24/2013 03:18:21 pm

I totally agree with this article all the way. I agree with Anige. I feel for the actresses and actors because the show isn't the same at all. As fan of the show and long time viewer I'm upset about how many actors have left the show in less than a year. Ever since this head writer has taken over it seems like all the gh cast has left.

I am very upset about how they have been destroying the history of the show and couples. I don't like like how the destroyed Jasam and scrubs.

I feel bad for the characters Jason and Sam because it seems like they never get a break. I'm a big fan of JaSam. As fan all I want to is for them to have a happy story-line. I want Sam to be able to have family and friends. I want her and Baby Danny to be happy.

I want all the couples and characters on the show to have some happiness.

I have watch an episode of GH since Steve burton left Last October so its about to be a year.

cejaycee
6/24/2013 06:31:10 pm

Wow! This article was perfectly on point and spoke to what so many fans of GH have been feeling lately. Unfortunately, I think the egos at work won't allow them to acknowledge any of the truths stated here, and I don't hold out hope for much change if no one from ABCD reins these guys in. It's very sad for this 35 year viewer to no longer wish to watch the show.

Christine S
6/24/2013 08:32:58 pm

I agree that "Silas Clay" and "Sam McCall" have ZERO chemistry!

stephanie
6/24/2013 09:02:43 pm

BRAVO!!!!

The soap critics and GH Apologist feel that the fans dislike of the OLTL3 is about them...for the most part it is not. The problem for off-line and social network fans is the continued push to accept these 3 characters in whatever form and ignore any completely ridiculous story or asinine character that we are given for them.

A man From Alternative World Port Charles who is(was/used) to be a vampire returns and kills a woman in front of her child and then walks around looking like the "hero" cop and acting alike but WAIT they have no connection. He then kidnaps the main GH female character and her child because she looks like his dead wife who only Lucy remembers, not Kevin or Mac who both did stints on Port Charles and who Kevin played the father of. But Wait, after he drugs, kidnaps, feels her up (which by the way MALE WRITERS is sexually assault) and BITES HER. He gets noted as Crazy, "Sort-of" Killed and no one bothers to ask why he looks like The "hero" cop or why the female character looks like "his dead wife" in fact we are lead to believe (due to the PP lawsuit) this was all a dream in Lucy's Nutty world.and the female character just dusts it off as he is misunderstood and should be pitied because he was just "a little crazy".*Well then that makes it all okay.

So now Easton is done with Crazy Clay and can now play oh wait another version of this story the OLDER, but IDENTICAL brother of the man but we will just rename him Morley and ignore that for the 3rd time he looks like, sulks like, and monotone acts his way through every scene. He has chemistry with EVERY female but Monaco most especially with Hughes and Grahn but those beats are ignored because we must find the "connection" that they created on Port Charles over TEN years ago.

The Fans are responding to the Laziness of Easton's acting. The PP lawsuit resolution was the creation of a new character. A Silly ponytail, glasses and a different name is not a new character and now the locks are flying free again and the dark, brooding, sulking character has returned yet again.....all McBain like....but with a different name.

As for Alderson she could so easily have been incorporated into GH originally as STARR a fellow student with Kristina or Michael Corinthos whose young daughter HOPE was living with relatives in PA, while she got an education and recovered from the re-arrest of her boyfriend COLE who is serving a long, well earned prison sentence. Instead we get COLE the historian of all things Luke and Laura and the Cassadines who gets run off the road by a Zaccharra and the young mother spent all of a Second trying to rescue her child. She gets to yell at Sonny (thinking he "killed" her family), but moves into his son's apartment and "bonds" over the 5 minutes of grief for her loss before she starts making eyes at Michael.

She was a character totally out of place and sync with the show and she had one storyline after another that made no sense to who the character used to be on OLTL. Then comes the PP lawsuit and faster then Clairol NO5 can dry she has a new hair color a really ridiculous story line introduction and now she's a Kiki of a girl with Mommy/Daddy issues, an attraction to Michael her new "cousin" sexing Morgan his brother on every flat surface and Oh, yeah now she's a "Quartermaine"

Howarth is truly the only character that from the gate fit into the GH canvas almost seamlessly. He has great chemistry with most of the screen partners he was given and if you had just "SLOWLY" made him a man looking to start a new life after his fell apart in PA he would have worked for years to come. Instead he was kidnapping and switching babies, joining in the crazy antics of all the suddenly psychotic women of Port Charles Heather, Connie/Kate and even Lucy.

The PP lawsuit seems to really be about Keeping the Talent and Character Richness of Howarth and not wanting to have it all be exclusive to GH. Even when you read it, it's not really that much about Easton and Alderson's loss to the show but the inconvenience of not having their use for even a brief period of storyline resolution.

The lawsuit on the basis while having a lot of merit has a ton of flaws in it's inception. It does not cover the loss of a legacy OLTL character in Hope Manning Thornheart. Or the potential future story lines in the Loss of baby Victor Lord the 3rd.

And it caused Howarth to be re-characterized into a character that has a polarizing effect on viewers, as you stated this has completely neutralized all that Franco was to make him more Leading Man and less the Most Hated Character in the 50 years of GH history.

To have Franco the Apology Tour where he says didn't really kill all those people for last 15 years just pretended. Think Joe Limbo might disagree since it was his neck that was broken. Or oh wait told Carter the murderer to just Love and Hug my nephew not brutalize and rape him, My Bad! Can we hug it out now.

Notice he had no problem

Jamie
6/24/2013 09:37:08 pm

This article is great! I would like to add my 2 cents about how I feel. I don't feel like GH characters or history is respected. It seems to me that GH is just being used for TPTB to continue their old show that was canceled. These new characters get all the focus and meaty stories while GH characters support them. The fact that a new character was the focus of a 50 Year Anniversary milestone for the show was a travesty!

The Quartermaine mansion is now taken over by two unknowns.
The Hospital revolves around a new character.
The stories are all about OLTL actors characters or new RC favorites like Sabrina.

I would rather GH to have been canceled then turned into another show. In the end it's the same thing, isn't it?

Angie
6/24/2013 10:03:45 pm

it's just like the first go around when Crimson was handed to Todd, and Starr got half ownership of The Haunted Starr, and John was given the JaSam baby story.

It's so obvious what is happening. this show revolves around the livers, Everyone else is just a prop.

Elizabeth and Nik could have been such a great story but they were only used to fill time between the 3 coming and going.

They have no respect for the history of GH. Look what they did to Frisco and Felicia, should have left it alone rather than what they did. Look at Jax and Brenda and Sonny and Brenda..destroyed and for WHAT reason. It's not driving story, it was done for no reason but it hurt fans.

Ron and Frank just arent writers i can get behind, I do miss GH but it was gone the day these fools took it over.

Becky
6/26/2013 12:28:41 am

Totally agree with you and this article. I can't believe what they have done with Gh. He destroyed Frisco and Felicia and Brenda and Sonny. Also he killed LnL. First time in years they are onscreen together and he plays them as indifferent. What ? LnL would never be indifferent. Luke at his worst still loved Laura when she wasn't onscreen. LnL were the backbones of Gh and are epic and legendary and now I don't recognize either character. Its sad and Gloria Monty would be horrified!

sarah jayne
6/24/2013 09:57:52 pm

Why all of this negativity ive been watching for 33 years as different regimes came and went. some decades were better than others. but gh has more powerful great actors than anyone in daytime i will always be a devoted fan no matter what. keep it up guys and the show will get cancelled. is that what u want whenwe all fought so hard to keep it.

Susan
6/24/2013 10:38:02 pm

At this point I would rather it be canceled its no longer General Hospital. I dont recognize this show anymore. Its been turned into a campy mess and full of predetermined agendas and favortism toward Actors while Vets to this show are just discarded and thrown out like trash. Its disgusting and I want someone higher up in ABC to either put us out of our misery or fire these 2 yahoos and give us back our show! I feel like we are all being held hostage at the mercy of what they want to see and not listening to their audience.

Babs
6/24/2013 10:38:18 pm

I didn't fight to have this show turned over to Livers. I didn't fight to watch Sabrina Hospital while the Robin bait and switch continues. Until TPTB recognize this crap is not working I won't watch and I will continue to discourage everyone else to not watch. They have destroyed a 50 year tradition in my family. My Gram would rollover in her grave if she got a load of what supposedly airs now is GH.

Cathy
6/25/2013 05:37:05 am

ITA Babs! I saw it first day FV and RC took over GH. Robin a GH character who grew up on screen was written off 2 months sooner so a OLTL pet of FV, Starr KA got to come on. should have been more scenes of Ribin with her husband and child. It she didn't matter only OLTL pets did. Same as ow when Nurse Ball was a coming out party for a pet Sabrina when it was to be about Robin. Even Robins husband and daughter prop Sabrina and they used Robins family and friends. FV and RC knew all along they had to work with Kimberly McCulloughs schedule and now blame her for not being available. Sorry Kimbely even said her return was up to FV NOT her. I believe Kimberly over FV and RC since they have baited the audience using Robin returning.

Candace
6/25/2013 02:26:53 am

@Sarah Jayne

I've been watching for over 25 years and I say, I hope they do cancel!! The show is ridiculous, it's a joke.
You think FV and RC give a crap about fans? Hell no! If they did, they'd actually listen to them. Fans don't want the crap that's on our screens. These "writers" don't care about the characters or couples that the fans love. They care about their 3 from a CANCELLED show! I wonder why OLTL was cancelled? Hmm... It's not only the actors but the people behind the cameras that they've replaced. Oh, and they got rid of Garin Wolf and replaced him, with who?? I'm sure you guessed it.
I hope they do cancel, not like I'm gonna miss it. I haven't been watching for awhile now anyway.

Kathie
6/29/2013 12:37:01 am

I completely agree Sarah! I have been a fan of all the ABC soaps for 30 years and I think GH is better than it has been in a long time. When GH got the people from OLTL things started getting better, not worse. All these negative remarks will end up getting GH cancelled. If these people were true GH fans, they would stick with it through the good and the bad. There are story lines I haven't liked as well as some actors I haven't liked. But I NEVER stopped watching!

Screw-SnarkyMcMoose
6/24/2013 10:54:04 pm

This article, and all comments within it, sounds like it was exclusively made by the former MrsMcMoose (now SnarkyMcMoose) and her followers. (go check her time line. The resemblance is obvious)

All this Moose has been doing is bashing RC and FV because She and her bashing team have not gotten their way, and all have been Banned by RC & FV for nasty and distasteful comments regarding their private lives.

Shame on you all.
Grow up already, and act like adults.

Maybe if you'd all stop getting so drunk while watching GH you may actually like it.

ScooterBeanBag is another one constantly making Gay references and unwanted slurs against RC . All while making like he's his friend.
He too was banned when RC actually viewed his timeline.

babs
6/24/2013 11:06:15 pm

I do not know what planet you are from but I do not even know what a McMoose is? What I find laughable in your post defending the almighty Cartini you do exactly what you are claiming is being done by others by attacking the messengers and try to trivialize their opinions by accusing viewers of being drunk or immature. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion whether you or TPTB like it or not.

Candace
6/25/2013 02:31:49 am

If I was drunk while watching GH, I'd probably really enjoy it!! Maybe that's your deal, you're drunk while watching so you love it. I'm guessing you're a OLTL fan and probably didn't watch GH until your favorites came over and destroyed our show. Have fun watching and drinking.

April
6/26/2013 12:41:20 pm

You're telling people to "grow up" yet calling us all drunks because we have VALID complaints? Look up "hypocrisy" in the dictionary, ABC intern. Your picture is next to the word.

susan
6/24/2013 11:26:41 pm

Not to mention, in what universe would Carly ever be alright with someone kidnapping Jason"s child as long as they told her they did it? Carly would have hung him on the meathook herself for messing with Jason. She may have had alot of faults but she loves Jason and there is no way she would have been alright with this baby switching mess if Todd told her he had done it....makes no sense to the history of Carly. We have seen over and over again how she hated people for even looking at Jason sideways.

Why is Monica ok with Franco being in her house? We have heard years and years that its her house and how she has threatened to kick out Tracy but she lets Franco move in and not put up a fight, not to mention this man tormented her Son, killed people for years and now he is just cozied up on the Q couch like he owns the place, Its gross!

Robert Scorpio would have never missed his daughters Funeral no way do I believe he would have, not the real Robert and in what universe does Robert get taken down by a female and be put in a coma? This is Robert, a super Spy. Anna, let me get started on her she being a spy also, cant tell the difference between latex and real skin?

Brenda, she may be a nutcase at times but never would she have allowed a young man who is a rape victim to believe he had been victimized while drunk, by her. Made no sense and on top of that they ruined Jax and Brenda for the ridiculous stint, they should have just left it alone.

What was the point of bringing back Frisco? All they did was make him look like a bigger douche by walking out on Maxie again because Felicia turned him down. While im on this subject, the song Frisco sang to Felicia at the Nurses Ball was not the song he wrote and sang for her in the first place, it was the song he wrote for Tanya. If these yahoos really knew the history they would have known that.

Lucy, is an absolute joke and acts like a clown. She was always a little rowdy and devious but never would I have thought that she would lead a group of people around town waving a flag chanting about vampires and nonsense. Its embarrassing, and that mess with Richard Simmons was a hot mess.

Dante and Lulu's story had all the potential in the world and then all of a sudden the story was wrapped up with Lulu getting her memory back then reuniting sexually and then the story just dropped off the screen but not before we had Lulu reciting recipes with Olivia, I cant help but see the connection of the timing to see why it was dropped. They had to get the OLTL 3 back on the show, how ridiculous.


Scotty, why has he not shared a single scene with Heather? In GH history, they were schemers together and instead we have Scotty doting over Laura and talking about starting up businesses with the town clown Lucy, who was recently declared crazy cause she saw Vampires but nope we cant have him over with Heather where he could get a really good story of causing trouble and making peoples lives hell, he is boring in this situation create some real drama with him atleast.

What was that Ice Princess story? What should and could have been a real good revist to a popular story turned into a story mostly told threw flashbacks with no middle! It had a beginning and an end. It was a mess!

Then we have AJ/Liz/Nik who were getting good feedback and people seemed to love the story but then it turned into a mess about relish, the Chew and vomit and now it went no where and seems that Nik will be moving on to another pairing in which the female part is a creation of this regime. Why cant Liz have a romance without being made to look like the fool. Now she will take back AJ after finding out he cheated. It makes no sense, why cant Liz and Nik be together? Thats where the story is given that at any time Lucky could re enter the picture and boom there you have an instant story.

Sam, no way do I believe that with her history of not trusting so quickly do I think she would have some instant connection with some dude who happened to be a cop would just start talking to him and telling him all her business and most of all she would not have taken up with a man trying to take down Sonny, if you take him down Jason would have went with him. When Jason warned her about John turning him in for Franco's murder she disregarded his warning and then proceeded to tell John that she does not believe he did it and he does not work that way. WHAT? Sam has always told Jason that she trusts his instincts and that they work well together because of it. In what universe did this Sam emerge from?

Now on to Jason, this man would have NEVER asked Sam to give up a child with the history they had. This man would have raised Satans child and they turned him upside down and flipped him every which way they could to make John McBain fly and it disgusts me to no end especially for the fact we lost Steve over their agenda.

Sonny, I just want my Mob Boss back! All he does is mess with crazy chicks and carry their purses.

Screw-SnarkyMcMoose
6/24/2013 11:28:45 pm

You have your opinions, I have mine.

But if you check the Twitter Timelines of even just the 2 that I mentioned, you'll see why I say this.

I'm not *defending* , or even trying to defend, ANYONE.
I'm just stating the obvious, seen by looking on the twitter accounts of the ones i have noticed bashing RC & FV and the same comments shown there, from the Moose and Scotty.

Screw-SnarkyMcMoose
6/24/2013 11:29:52 pm

You have your opinions, I have mine.

But if you check the Twitter Timelines of even just the 2 that I mentioned, you'll see why I say this.

I'm not *defending* , or even trying to defend, ANYONE.
I'm just stating the obvious, seen by looking on the twitter accounts of the ones i have noticed bashing RC & FV and the same comments shown there, from the Moose and Scotty.

Screw-SnarkyMcMoose
6/24/2013 11:31:00 pm

You have your opinions, I have mine.

But if you check the Twitter Timelines of even just the 2 that I mentioned, you'll see why I say this.

I'm not *defending* , or even trying to defend, ANYONE.
I'm just stating the obvious, seen by looking on the twitter accounts of the ones i have noticed bashing RC & FV and the same comments shown there, from the Moose and Scotty.

Robynne
6/24/2013 11:40:02 pm

J...it is Llanview NOT Llandview!

Screw-SnarkyMcMoose
6/24/2013 11:44:28 pm

This site is only looking as its a bashing site, with little babies running it.
You Babs, say I'm acting like I'm bashing the messenger.
No, I'm just giving the messenger a taste of their own medicine.

You all have no constructive comments, except to try and insult someone else.
I'm no longer interested in this site and all it's comments by children.
And angry children at that, with little else to do but rant in a child-like rage.

How totally transparent of all of you.
This is nothing more than a hate vehicle for your frustrations.

I'm out of here, and want nothing to do with all of you and your unconstructive "comments".

By the way, I was referring to McMoose and her band of haters being drunk while watching.
So if you don't know them, why are you taking such offense to my statement?

Patti Vaillancourt
6/25/2013 12:06:25 am

BYE Screw!!!! why did you comment on the article in the first place? This was not a praise Ron or stick up for Ron posting....Go somewhere else where RON love, is all over the place...the ones here feel like he is disrespecting the history of GH...if you don't ...SEE YA!

Patti Vaillancourt
6/25/2013 12:07:04 am

BYE Screw-Snarky why did you comment on the article in the first place? This was not a praise Ron or stick up for Ron posting....Go somewhere else where RON love, is all over the place...the ones here feel like he is disrespecting the history of GH...if you don't ...SEE YA

Patti Vaillancourt
6/25/2013 12:01:26 am

I stopped watching the day they announced Roger as Franco, the build up was so long, and the reveal was so poorly done, and showed such a lack of inventive writing, that was the last straw for me. The way they blew Jason off, at the end of a huge build up on the baby story, then to "kill him" off before even finding out the baby was his. I almost stopped watching then. I started yelling at the TV daily "you seriously expect me to even half-way believe this CRAP!?" After AJ's lame comeback, re-writing history to show Steve trying to save him, when it had already been established he was in Memphis at the time, and even left the show to atone for that. Anyone who saw AJ die years ago...knows he was dead for more than an hour, with family saying goodbye, yet he miraculously comes back to life, with no brain damage, and Monica hides this from Alan?!?!?! They clearly do not know the character of these characters at all, Monica would not have done that to Alan. Then the lame crap with Faison wearing a Duke mask? really? Does Anna have stupid written on her forehead....do I? The OLTL 3 comeback could not be written as something inventive, they had to take a story so recent on every ones mind, one that had already met its perfect end, played by a movie star the part was written for and put Roger in that role and then make him a saint? Spit in the face of everything that was written for Jason and Sam following his death and made a mockery of the drawn out baby drama. Then Ron's interview at the Emmys with all his "Uhm yeahs", and says Roger needs a larger than life Character? Proof of his need to promote his OLTL pals, and diminish the already larger than life characters GH has. Clearly the writers are stuck on OLTL and making this happen at the expense of all the actors that MADE GH for 50 years...the only good story they have written since they got there, was Heathers comeback, they did an ok job of the Nurses Ball, and the Anniversary was done pretty well trying to tie everyone together. The forcing of Michael and Kelly together is getting so old now, We are NOT interested, I can second guess everything that will happen from here on out. I can't watch as they screw up the rest of the stories I really wanted to see and had been waiting on for much longer. They spoiled Luke and Laura's adventure & her wedding, *yawn*, they keep repeating old story, or OLTL stories that have been done so much already it grows mold. Constant baby switching, kidnapping, and baby killing, DID was done to death on OLTL...lets do it on GH?!? I just can't watch them destroy my 49 years of great memories of GH to suit their agenda. If I had "WANTED" to watch OLTL I would have. GH was the ONLY soap that ever interested me, the rest were too predictable and unbelievable. Now these bozos are dragging GH down and I have to wonder if it is on purpose, because they were so mad OLTL got cancelled and feel GH doesn't deserve to continue. People may have been mad at Guza for making some questionable changes, but he wrote great story since the 80's it was not necessary to butcher the stuff he had done in order to make the soap into what Ron wanted it to be, that shows a lack of writing skill...I saw tons of great ideas for the entries written by fans, that would have made sense, held long term stories, and accomplished everything they wanted for RH, ME & KA on GH, without making them play these awful characters.....go ahead and rename the show now Ron. "One Live to repeat at Port Chuck". I have loved GH longer than I have had my husband and kids, I have not missed a day since the invention of the VCR. For you to destroy the 'one show' I loved the most, for my entire life, in the course of barely more than a year. I feel like I have had a multitude of deaths in my family, and someone is sitting back laughing at me for being stupid enough to have ever loved them. Nice going Ron & Mike...Ron it is really clear you write like you speak..."and uhm yeah, haha, uh, uh, uhm. yeah, I mean..uh yeah...snicker". It was clear the Emmy's were one sided this year too, and for them not to mention or do a piece on GH's 50th...or a decent tribute to Edward?...Clearly there is some serious bad blood behind the scenes. Execs, producers, head, and puppet writer for GH....SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!!!! If you planned on destroying GH to make room for another lame cooking show or talk show...you make me and soooo many people sick and upset enough to ban ABC from daytime viewing..if you were worried about your ratings....perhaps you should have included those that no longer pay for cable and watch via streaming, as I had done for 2 years, More people were watching than you are giving credit for, but not anymore. I miss the GH that had a good balance of good and Mob, action and adventure, and so much laughter. How anyone in power could have ever let anyone destroy that, to in one way or another, attract a different type of viewer, is in way over their head and sho

LooksLikeOneBigRun-OnSentence
6/25/2013 03:43:31 am

Funny-YouRightOneLargeRunOnSentenceWithNoBreakPointsOrLineSpacingAndYouHaveTheNerveToCommentOnRonCarlivatiStyleOfWritingWhatAHackYouAre.YeahYourConvincingMeYouKnowBest-NOT!

WHY WASTE SPACE
6/25/2013 05:23:57 am

Looks like you can't see periods or commas. As you can see I ran out of space, since my last line was cut off and it doesn't tell you that you have exceeded word count.

Why would I waste space on making many paragraphs and indentures in this little box? I never claimed to be a writer nor was this some kind of writing contest, but a comment board.

It is people with the simple mentality that can only criticize other peoples comments, and never have an intelligent thought of your own. That support brain dead writing like Ron's, and frankly I would not be surprised if it was Ron himself that was commenting on my post. Since based on the article above, criticism isn't received well by him.

If we want to get really picky here, no one was asking the Actors to perform what I wrote earlier, it's a comment not a script. I would challenge Ron any day of the week to write a story line for GH and I write one, then have the public & actors blind judge what they would rather see. Then we can reveal who wrote it. I know more about the characters and what they have done in 49 years than he ever will on his best day with research. Hope my comments this time met your criteria for answering a comment. Patti V

J.Says
6/25/2013 12:12:14 am

@Sarah: Thank you Sarah for pointing that out. While I don't care for some of what I'm seeing, I still support the show with my viewership. As I mentioned, ratings are crucial for ALL soaps. That's just the time we live in right now.

Marnie
6/25/2013 12:16:31 am

My problem with the current GH is simple. All of the stories miss important beats and are poorly constructed. I can't care about anything on screen because everything feels slapped together at the last minute. Michael and Kiki for example. Yesterday, they were acting like they were secret lovers and they had to bury their feelings for each other from everyone else. When exactly did they fall in love? I missed it.

The who shooting story is losing steam. Why should I care of Ava shot Franco? I liked the story better when Carly seemed behind it. There were actual consequences then. But now, zilch.

And Franco. The guy is Todd. I don't see Franco at all.

I'm not as hard on the show as others posting here, but even I am finding hard to justify spending an hour of my day with a show where I can't invest in any story. I keep going things will get better, but they don't. But I am going to stop complaining about it and just take a break from the show. The writer is going to write what he likes. That's fine. I just wish he'd write at least one story that I'd like. It would be a nice change.

J.Says
6/25/2013 12:18:10 am

@Screw: I am not MrsMcMoose; have never heard of her. I am a supporter of the LGBT community ( as you will see in other sections of this site), and do NOT condone hate in any form. This isn't about "bashing" anyone, it's about addressing what I find to be issues with the show. I have never tweeted Carlivati anything insulting, have barely tweeted him at all. Please research what you can of me before making accusations.

Luther
6/25/2013 12:43:46 am

Well said. I think you summarize the feelings of a lot of people, and that goes far beyond bitter Jasam or Scrubs fans. I see a lot of people who want to ignore the criticism and deflect that it comes from bitter fans who didn't get what they want. Interestingly, I have noticed many of the people who level that accusation seem to be overly obsessed with Easton's hair.

Juliette
6/25/2013 12:55:53 am

ITA with everything you said! I had such hope for GH when Valentini and Carlivati came on--only to be disappointed and annoyed time after time. Between the OLTL characters now being the "stars" of GH and the ridiculous and silly OTT stories (DID, Vampires, relish), I finally gave up and tuned out. My off-line friends often ask me what happened to the GH leads since they have no storyline except supporting the FV favorites (which also seemed to include Kelly Sullivan--whose Kate/Connie turned Sonny into an imbecile.)

Yes, FV and RC are trying to turn GH into OLTL. Unfortunately, they are doing a terrible job at it. PP's OLTL is far superior to GH now. I look forward to each new episode on line. AND IMO, the on-line version is far superior than the network version was.

SwanQueen59
6/25/2013 01:06:24 am

Excellent article about the writing disaster that GH has become. It's no longer a question of whether I'm watching to enjoy a story well constructed and told with windswept heart and soul. It's to the point where I watch to see certain talented actors navigate/negotiate through a dilapidated minefield that has lost that aforementioned heart and soul.

lm cee
6/25/2013 01:22:25 am

I no longer watch GH. Do I want it to be cancelled NO but Ron and Frank are paid for the crap they write. I am not rewarding them by watching. This show is no longer GH it's OLTL2. All the OLTL characters and all the people they have hired are front and center. We have lost 4 amazing character and 1 on recurring since they took over. Now I here Kelly Sullivan and Kristen Storms are next. I believe it's Ron and Frank's fault. This is NOT the show I grew up watching and have loved for 25+ years.

lulu
6/25/2013 02:28:50 am

I've watched GH since the FIRST day it was on, as I got out of business school at that time & my mom was watching it, so I started too. Through the yrs., even when working, I'd keep up with it, and either record or watch it on you tube, etc., so I'm probably the oldest watcher here. Yes, they ARE faving the new OLTL stars, but they aren't GH stars, so seeing how ridiculous their story lines are & ingnoring our tried and true GH stars is NOT going to sit well with any of us. GH has it's OWN stars, and to run Jason off and discount the rest is NOT GH. Starr Manning, aka Kiki, is stupid acting and the incestous storyline is sickening. The story line that the new Franco has is also absurb and makes no sense. The writers are "reaching", and if they think we aren't loyal to our GH star base, they are dumber than I thought. Sam isn't even acting like herself, and neither is Sonny...none of them are. I suggest they check the history a whole lot more. Yuck

lulu
6/25/2013 02:31:17 am

Looks like I was in a huge hurry, misspelling incestuous and some typos. Sorry, but guess am upset with the stupid way GH is going and was in a hurry to put my 2 cents in.

Susan
6/25/2013 02:47:59 am

Sorry to keep posting but reading all of this makes me feel so much better cause for awhile I thought it was just me that felt this way so its really nice to see others feel the same way I do, its refreshing for me. I have not watched GH as long as some of you maybe 10 years. I remember going to visit my Dad in the Summers and my Stepmom watched, this was in the early 90's, but I had a general idea who characters were but I did not really start watching until I saw Sam McCall and I liked her tough girl image con ways with an exterior that wanted to be loved. I liked her with Sonny and enjoyed that story but I really became invested the day I saw her dream of dancing with Sonny and she looked up and saw Jason. I knew then that maybe they were going to pair them so I became loyal to a fault to GH just because of Sam, I tuned out when they had her watching kidnappings, being drunk all the time and having 5 Husbands. I thought it was absurd but I returned when I saw promo's of Jason and Sam reuniting.Long story short I was a Sam Fan through and through but this ridiculous nonsense they had her doing for John and acting the way she was made me feel so bad for Jason because I knew what the agenda behind it was. It was all so sad, the story I had waited for was destroyed and maybe this makes me sound a bit fangirlish but it broke my heart to watch John get every beat that should have been Jasons. I know it can never be fixed and we lost Steve and thats what drives me even more crazy. I feel for every character fan or couple fan that has been stomped on and has lost everything that had them invested in this show. I wish this regime would start acknowledging their audience take some constructive critcism and stop being so rude and snarky to everyone. We,afterall are the customer, if we dont watch there are no ad revenues. If I as a customer service rep told a customer "maybe this store is not for you" I would be fired so I dont know or understand why a HW is allowed to behave the way he does by making rude snide remarks or blocking his audience. I know I said earlier I would rather the show be canceled but deep down I just want ABC to see these guys are destroying GH and making it OLTL and do something about it. Either step in and riegn these guys in or get rid of them. I dont care, I just want my show back. I miss Jason and Sam, Robin and Patrick, Liz and Lucky, Nik and Emily, Sonny and Carly or Jax and so on. All Im saying is Please for the love of God somebody at ABC do something. I dont even care if they are still going to cancel it next year, please put people in charge that will care about GH and not another show. Im sick of seeing One Life and Port Charles on my GH. Most of all, I miss rushing home everyday to get to the DVR or planning my day around GH as it is now I dont watch unless there is a tease about Jason whom I became a major fan of when they destroyed Sam. Again, sorry for posting over and over again my disgust!!

lm cee
6/25/2013 03:28:56 am

I started watching GH with my grandma during the Luke & Laura craze. I was really young so I didn't really understand what was going on but I watched because she did. I got older and feel in love with Jason & Sam. They were my Luke & Laura. I watched faithfully when they were on. I was addicted. As soon as Liz told Jason he was the father I was done. I stopped watching. I knew that they were going to pair Jason & Liz. I was so pissed that they would ruin this amazing couple for boring Jiz. They never worked before Sam came to town. They always seemed liked friends or like brother & sister to me. I never seen the chemistry. I only turned back in when I seen a promo that Jason & Sam were reuniting also. I became addicted all over again. I don't know what it is about Steve & Kelly together but they were amazing. At times they had be believing that they were a real couple. What makes me madder than anything is that Ron & Frank came in and didn't even bother to get to know any of these characters. He wrote all of them so out of character. Without any regards to the fans. He even wrote Liz horribly. He ruined what we have waited 8 long years for just because Kelly & Michael were on a soap together. They may have had chemistry once. I don't know I never watched that soap but they don't have it now and I am tired of Ron trying to cram them down our throats. I applaud Steve Burton for leaving and taking a stance against the destruction of Jason and Sam. I read the article he did with Michael Fairman. After reading that article I don't believe for one minute he left to spend more time with his family. It was because of Ron & Frank. Him joining Y & R was another indication.

People say that I am not a true fan because I don't watch but like I stated before they get paid a lot of money for what they do. Why should I reward them with my viewership? I am letting them know that I am NOT going to watch any old crap they write. It's not OK with me to destroy the show I have loved for so long. If enough people start taking action maybe someone will finally do something about it. Viewership does matter. We are now number 4 in the ratings. 4 out of 4. Something has to been done. Hire another writer to help him. All I can say is Thank GOD for you tube because I can always go back and watch the show when it was amazing.

Bren
7/1/2013 02:40:23 pm

I am thankful that someone had the courage step up and write an article recognizing what fans have been noticing all along.

As I read the comments going down the page, I some how also felt a bit of relief. I have accused myself of being judgmental and too harsh on RC & FV sometimes, however, I see I'm not alone. I completely agree, these two have systematically torn GH apart. I also have stopped watching GH for the first time in my life. I too grew up watching with my grandmother and I fell head over heels for JaSam. Never before, had I become so engrossed in watching a fictional couple evolve into a supercouple. The chemistry between Kelly & Steve was absolutely outstanding. I not only applaud Steve for leaving, and the others who have followed, but wish that Kelly would also go to another show where her talents could be utilized. She has become nothing more than arm candy for Michael Easton. Seems the only time we see her is if the storyline involves Michael, even little Danny's illness is about bringing Silas into Port Charles and forcing a relationship between him and Sam (disgusting).

I never liked OLTL, but I certainly never wanted the show to be canceled. I did not have a problem with some of the actors joining GH, as they needed jobs. What I had a problem with is exactly as stated above, GH is being written solely for the 3 OLTL characters. RC has changed characters to the point of making them unrecognizable to me. It's as if RC/FV have slapped GH fans in the face by re-writing GH history, assuming the fans don't know the history of it's characters.

These two are so arrogant, they should be fired. If GH is to survive ABC will have to act quickly.

Gina link
6/25/2013 04:00:49 am

I Agrre 100% with what U said. Tptb and Cartini Cant Handle The Truth GH Sucks and they know it.

susan
6/25/2013 04:52:33 am

Im going to add this to my list above about the ridiculous story lines

Luke, he is now dying from a toxic earring that Helena put on him. Really? lol

Dzzdee
6/25/2013 05:26:07 am

Honesty, The story lines are far too many... and too many past characters with new characters combo... to take all this combo's in an one hour episode is ridiculous.. We need another Soap, even if it's not OLTL.. Use your imaginations network writers.. Soaps are the Daytime pass time. Get back, what you give back!

Renee
6/25/2013 05:35:28 am

And another thing that irritates me about Ron and his writing is the constant snarky comments about AJ and his weight. Does he not realize that this show is watched mostly by woman and that alot of woman, including myself battle my weight issues.

it's so disrespectful and not needed.

Patti V
6/25/2013 06:14:27 am

Seriously Susan??....he is dying from a poison earring? OMG This is why I had to stop watching...I can't continue to have my memories of GH destroyed by just plain STUPID writing. People laugh at the soap watchers for being so invested....but had they done something like this the last season of "FRIENDS" Rachel becomes a prostitute and sold her daughter to Gunther, Ross turns gay and marries Chandler, Phoebe agrees to have Quads for Monica, all fathered by Joey without sex but a turkey baster....People would have LOST THEIR MINDS!!!!!! and that show was only on the air for 10 years. The current story on GH is just as ridiculous as that friends plot...maybe this will put some perspective on it for all those that say...it's only a soap.

Patti V
6/25/2013 06:24:02 am

Where does Ron comment on AJ's weight? is this a Twitter thing? I personally have never gotten into that whole craze, and I certainly would not follow Ron on Facebook. I didn't even know he was gay until an earlier post. I don't care if he is gay or not, but if he is knocking AJ's weight? Then this man needs a serious social adjustment, since over 60% of Americans are now obese, and even less are gay. Sorry, but weight, race and sexual preference bashing is socially unacceptable and he needs to get a clue, and a new job.

Luther
6/25/2013 09:15:28 pm

He does it in the dialogue Patti. Through the voices of the other characters. Franco and Tracy for starters. Although I suppose the script writer is really to blame for that.

KSH
6/25/2013 06:26:36 am

I'm actually one of the displaced OLTL viewers that Cartini were trying to win over with their 3 transplants and even I am tired of them dominating the show while the storylines for GH's own characters seem to vanish into thin air.

Well said by those who pointed out these stories have a beginning and an end but no middle. The ELQ/Edward's will story started last Nov. and has gone nowhere in 7 months. Are they waiting for more heirs to pop out of the woodwork? Kate/Connie has DID. Whoops. Now she doesn't. The Maxie/Spinelli/Lante baby story died in the vine. The vet returns haven't amounted to much. In fact I didn't even realize Lucy was still supposed to be in town after the silly vampire bit and the gimmick of the nurses ball.

The show just feels gutted. If you're not into the Livers or the teens there's not a whole lot there.

SnarkyMcMoose IsNow CapeMcMoose
6/25/2013 10:36:13 pm

Ha! So you're not the infamous HATE-group from Twitter?
Bull-S**T

This is why SnarkyMcMoose went to SnarkMcMoose then to her now,
CapeMcMoose after I exposed you all.

Hey Karen

Patti V
6/26/2013 02:11:38 am

Luther Thank you for letting me know how this was done, since I refuse to watch GH in this state I have missed those comments directed at AJ....very poor taste IMO.

KSH.....very well said. I could not agree more.

Snarky, you should seek professional help. Just because people here do not agree with you, doesn't mean we are in some Moose Haters group. I for one and many others here have no idea who you are talking about. I think we should all call you RON now, Hey RON! LOL.....~waves~ :-)

Gino
6/26/2013 12:26:42 pm

I'm chuckling at the sheer hypocrisy of this article and those that cosign it. It was acceptable when Guza destroyed 35+ years of history and characters to prop his pets Sonny/Jason/Carly, but it's an abomination when Ron does the same? I stan for neither of these hacks and no longer watch the show, but I shall be enjoying belly laughs when this raggedy show finally gets what it should've been almost 15 years ago - cancelled.

April
6/26/2013 12:52:02 pm

Are you for real?! People ranted so much on Guza, he was finally and rightfully F-I-R-E-D. The only people who were stans for him were soap bloggers. Keep up, and cool it with putting everyone here in the same damn category as if those who hate on Ron now were not hating on Guza then. Like, really? Are you new? Assuming is *never* a good thing, especially on the internet.

Cejaycee
6/26/2013 05:14:49 pm

No kidding! There was a celebration the likes of which I've never seen before when Guza was fired, especially with all the outcry that seemingly went unheard by fans. Then the Soap Saviors showed up, installed the "bait and switch" to the nth degree with GH vets, brought over the OLTL 3 (who become just like Guza's Unholy Trinity) and gave them the lions' shares of airtime, not to mention the better stories/writing, and threw a bunch of newbies all over the place that needed to be held up by already established characters. All this while expecting the audience to swallow it all like sugar. I'm sorry, Guza was bad, but Carlivati is no better. Cow manure is different from horse manure but in the end, they're both still manure.

Gino
6/27/2013 12:08:36 am

I'm as serious as a heart attack. Heck, some of the comments in response to <i>this</i> article are begging for General Mobspital to return, as if it wasn't the very thing that dragged a once-spectacular soap into the gutter. So you can miss me with the indignant pearl-clutching because every single one of you Cartini haters are telling on yourselves.

Gina link
6/27/2013 09:49:58 am

THIS WAS ONCE A GREAT SOAP ALL THE RIDICULOUS ASININE CRAPPY REDUNDANT STORY LINES SUCK THIS IS PULP FICTION AT IT WORST AND TPTB DON'T SEEM TO CARE I HAVE NEVER SEEN A SOAP TANK SO,FAST AND DRPO SO LOW WORST MOVE THEY COULD HAVE MADE WAS HIRE FV AND RC

lulu
6/27/2013 11:33:50 am

All I know is GH was once a great show, and it's becoming ridiculous now with the bad & stupid storylines. Please don't ruin our old characters, they're great. Soooo sick of the OLTL characters taking it over like we didn't have a storyline to begin with. Keep our characters like they WERE & always have been, not some idiots. Luke & Laura were once great, now they're groveling. Come ON!!

Marc
6/27/2013 02:58:26 pm

I stopped watching GH when the Llanview characters left. This show never captivated me . The only thing that held any interest for me was a trace of OLTL . Once it was gone it was a very easy decision to stop watching . I think its funny and deserved the last place abc network and the last place soap opera so richly deserve each other

Nancy
6/27/2013 11:40:33 pm

GH was going to be cancelled. The show had gone from bad to worse. Ron and Frank are the best in the business. I cannot believe people. The twists and turns of Ron's writing are so unbelievably awesome. Just love the show now. I will never stop watching.

Traci Kishbaugh
6/28/2013 11:05:13 am

Nancy, ITA! I am constantly amazed at the brilliant things Ron comes up with. He has shocked/suprised me many times with his writing. THIS is what great writing is. I'm surprised more people don't recognize great writing when they see/hear it.

Shirley M. Broome link
6/27/2013 11:58:03 pm

Can't anyone but me see what is going on? This is a ruse to give ABC an excuse to drop General Hospital. Here is how it works: bring in some hack writers and let them write storylines that are rehashes of other storylines from other shows. Start firing favorite actors that are the heart of the program. Soon the viewers get so fed up with the slop, even the most fathful fans are forced to stop watching., Look at such favorite Prime time shows: X-Files, CSI, Star Trek, etc. When you hear that the producers are leaving (fired) and a new crew complete with NEW writers and sometimes actors too shows up. All of a sudden the show tanks. It is an old, but effective ploy. Sorry folks, but GH is going to be ousted to make room for Queen LaTeefa. They will find a new person to take over for Katie, and that will be that. There isn't a damn thing you can do about it., Boycotting gave GH a repreve, but it will not save it. As long as viewers are at the mercy of TV Network Execs shows will rise and fall to THEIR tastes not that of the viewers. There is a phrase, "Least Objectional Programing," it means Networks can put on what ever it likes and viewers will hunt around for something to watch that they can stomach, but not necessarily like.

lulu
6/28/2013 12:18:55 am

The hot shots at ABC have been wrong plenty of times before. We are inundated with talk shows, and Yeah, Katie is boring, so would Queen Latisa be....just too many talk shows. Lots of people like "continuing" story lines....hence the popular one's at night...Revenge, etc, etc....that's why people like soap operas....they are like family to people who watch them, so if they take off GH, that's been the same family since 1963, I swear I will NOT EVER watch the show that replaces it....they're just too boring. They need to listen to the fans of GH...it's been the greatest soap ever and has the most loyal fans ever. Get it execs?

Kristy
6/28/2013 12:42:19 am

It's clear you have very strong opinions on the GH/OL s/ls. I have watched both soaps for decades - off and on. I was a HUGE OL fan when it was taken off and was THRILLED when GH offered some air time to my OLers. I had not really watched GH for a long time at that point. Since the actors / s/ls have come aboard, I have watched religiously and have a new love and respect for all things GH. I have enough history w/the show that during the anniversary when so many old actors and associations came on, I remembered all of them and could even fill in friends whose loyalty had not spanned back so far... I am loving the show. I would have liked to see a cross over continue. I think that is brilliant marketing. Too bad tptb have to get their panties in a twist over legal bs. I will continue to watch BOTH shows.
For the record I miss Todd, Starr, and especially JOHN McBAIN!!

lulu
6/28/2013 03:14:13 am

Don't know who you're replying to, but I also used to watch OLTL....Vicki, Clint, Clint's bro. (can't think of his name now), and used to like it too, but then they got all of the new people on it (some of which are now on GH), and stopped watching it, as only had time for one soap, so of course I chose GH. I could care less if OLTL actors are on GH, just don't want them dominating the story line & also the story lines have gotten stupid, and the new writers have obviously not researched the GH characters too well, as they aren't acting like themselves, and have lost their spitfire. I do hate the "new" characters being who they are. Franco? That whole thing doesn't make sense. Leave him dead & make it a dream for God sakes. Monica would NEVER allow the real Franco in the Q house, we all know that, and there is NO good to the old Franco; they're making him over wayyy too much. They could've made him a Q cousin...hello?

lois
6/28/2013 03:38:30 am

would never have watched gh if the 3 stars from OLTL were not on GH....especially Roger, & Michael....Starr is ok in my book also....u folks should be glad the rating for gh increased cause gh is next on abc's hit list...............they got rid of AMC & OLTL & GH is right behind them...maybe abc will leave GH alone because of the higher ratings.

anne
6/28/2013 10:42:55 am

ALthough I do love the characters from OLTL, they are not what is making GH better. GH is not better. GH will never be what it once was. Actors/actresses such as Maurice Bernard, Laura Wright, and Anthony Geary are what GH is all about. The writing that USED to be done for those amazing actors is what made GH. Now, the GH that once was is nothing but a memory.

deborah
6/28/2013 11:32:22 am

I understand where a lot of you guys are coming from, but to turn your tv off and stop watching gh? That's ridiculous. I was a big fan of all 3 of the ABC soaps and I was so distraught that ABC decided to cancel not one, but two of them! That was a very sad day for me.
I have to say that I was so thankful that GH brought a few of the OL actors on because it was a way for OLTL to live on. What if the situation was reversed and GH was the show that got cancelled and your hearts were breaking. Wouldn't you guys have appreciated it if OLTL maybe brought some GH characters to Llanview in order for GH to live on? Of course with GH's popularity I know that never would have happened. I'm just saying, don't be so harsh. Put yourself in a fans shoes of OLTL and AMC and imagine how their hearts are broken.
I personally wish that legally ABC and Prospect Park could have worked something out where they could have kept sharing the characters. I personally can't stand the new characters and am secretly hoping for OLTL to tank so GH can have the rights to the characters.
All you guys need to do is give them a chance. They are 3 very talented actors. I know change is hard to accept sometimes but for someone that is heartbroken that she lost one of her favorite shows, it was wonderful to be able to turn on the tv and see some of them live on. AND believe me, it's a stupid reason to turn you tv's off.
I know a lot of you guys also talk about Sabrina and Patrick being another reason not to watch. Just remember the actress that plays Robin chose to leave because she is now in school for directing. She makes appearances when her schedule allows it and I'm sure her days as Robin aren't over. In the meantime it's good that Patrick is moving on and with Sabrina! Give them a chance. Sabrina is very similar to Robin in that her heart is pure. Imagine along down the road Sabrina and Patrick getting married, and who interrupts the wedding??! Maybe Robin? Now that makes some good tv!

GINA link
6/28/2013 06:38:58 am

THE THREE AMIGOC HAD NO CONNECTION TO GH OTHER THAN THE TWO CONDESCENDING PRICKS FROM OLTL TURN GH INTO OLTL 0.0AND RUINED GH BECAUSE THERE FEELINGS GOT HURT AND HAVE FIRED OR LET GO MUCH OG OLD GH REWRITE HISTORY TO SUIT THEMSELVES AND IT SICKD THEY KNOW IT AND ABC KNOWS IT AAS FAR AS IM CONCERNED THEY COULD CANCEL TOMORROW AND I WOULD BE SO HAPPY I WOULD RATHER THEY CANCEL INSTEAD OF CONTINUING DESTROYING AN EPIC SOAP THEY TURNED IT INTO TRASH THAT ONLY THEY LIKE AND OF COURSE EVRYTHING CENTERED AROUND FREAKO BRIDGE TROLL AND DR. RAPEY

Traci Kishbaugh
6/28/2013 07:48:36 am

I can't believe what I just read! You are full of it! OMG! I am LOVING Roger as Franco. Simply because I hated the character before. It was the worst character to ever be written on GH and totally unwatchable for me.

I have total faith in Mr. Carlivati and Mr. Valentini. They had a holy mess to clean up from Guza, who was destroying the show little by little. IMO, the fans should be very grateful to Mr. Carlivati and Mr. Valentini because they literally saved GH from the chopping block and turned the show around. Without them, we wouldn't HAVE a show anymore. Mr. Carlivati is just trying to make the best out of this situation. You can only do so much after the previous writer has done so much damage. He deserves credit for fixing what he has so far because it's been nothing short of a miracle in the little time he's been head writer. And thank God he is phasing out the mob stuff in favor of the way the show USED TO BE...you know...back before Guza when the show was actually GOOD. Yeah, it's finally good again. OLTL fans know what he is capable of. The fans that ONLY watched GH & never OLTL need to give him a chance. It takes time, people. You can't perform miracles over night. Although he's come close.

I find it surprising that everyone is complaining and having fits over THREE actors out of the total cast. That is just ridiculous. You're all making a big deal out of nothing. Three characters? Seriously? Do you remember how many GH VETS they brought back?

As for Bradford Anderson being dropped down to recurring status, what the author of this article neglects to mention is that it was Bradford's choice to go recurring. Geesh, people! Get your facts straight before you write something, will you?

Now, about Mr. Carlivati. I have NEVER seen him be rude to a fan without reason. Yes, it's easy to say he should be polite and/or just ignore the comments. But sometimes you just can't do that. I don't blame him for responding in kind after some of the comments I've seen him get. There is constructive criticism and then there is the kind of rude/nasty comments he is getting.

Anne
6/28/2013 10:37:34 am

Let's just call it what it is....General Hospital SUCKS now, and it has nothing to do with the actors. GH has always been the best soap on television, because of the outstanding writers, story lines, characters, and actors/actresses. Not any more. The downfall started with the whole vampire thing. The story lines since have been ridiculous and laughable. I think the writers of GH have really cheapened the acting capabilities and talents of the actors/actresses on the show. And now, bringing back actors as other people. That is the dumbest move yet. I mean really, how can fans be expected to appreciate an amazing actor like Roger Haworth as Todd Manning and then as Franco??? Outrageous. Franco IS James Franco and Todd Manning IS Roger Howarth. The whole show is absolutely ridiculous and how finally lowered it's standards to the other goofy,corny, and lame soaps such as Bold and the Beautiful and Days of Our lives. I don't even watch any more. After over 20 years of never missing, I never watch. It's so sad and so unfortunate.......No wonder Steve Burton left.

Anne
6/28/2013 10:55:24 am

I apologize for misspelling your name, Mr. Howarth.....My autocorrect is annoying. :)

Traci Kishbaugh
6/28/2013 10:53:38 am

Anne, I don't know how you or anyone can say General Hospital sucks now when clearly the writing has gotten MUCH better. I'm not saying everything is wonderful, but it's WAY better than it was when Guza was writing. As far as bringing back actors as other people, it's done all the time. Actors don't play the same roles on soaps all the time. And yes, I do know you're referring to Roger, Kristen & Michael not being Todd, Starr & John. But that's hardly the fault of Ron Carlivati. It's due to the stupid lawsuit by Prospect Park, so if you want to blame someone, blame them for that.

As for wondering how people can appreciate Roger as Todd and now Franco, it's simple. And you said it yourself. Roger is an amazing actor and we can appreciate it because we appreciate his amazing talent.

Amanda
6/28/2013 10:54:13 am

OK, let's be up front, I'm a 30+ year OLTL fan, and so I came over after the show was cancelled. I had watched GH in the 80s and into the early 90s, but then dropped off when watching 2 soaps took up too much time. That said, I missed most of the original Franco and whatnot, although I followed the show via SID, so I at least knew of some of the storylines.

When I moved over to GH in Feb of 2012, before RC stepped in, it was absolutely horrid. What was that thing about the guy in the fedora stalking Maxi and what about when Johnny found out his sister was his mother and he cut those flowers that belonged to his grandfather and the grandfather said, "Now we're even." Remember that? That had to have been some of the sloppiest writing EVER in the history of television.

Oh yeah, and don't forget the woman in white.

In short, we have very selective memories here.

What happened after RC took over was phenomenal. Yes, of course, I'm partial to the OLTL crew, but I came to finally think that the Sopranos 2.0 was worth something. The poison water storyline was ah-mazing.

I totally get constructive criticism, but the large number of negative comments here seem somewhat slightly misguided. I'm fine with not liking certain things, it happens, but with so many people wishing a show they love so much gets cancelled is totally disturbing to me. We are talking about hundreds of jobs here. I'm not sure how to rectify what everyone is so angry about, but it would be nice to see some positivity going around for once.

I'm not trying to hand out advice. You either like something or you don't, but this article is looking to serve an agenda with conspiracy like writing - RC follows your tweets, like he's just sitting at his computer waiting for you to say something about him. Seriously. And that so many people are feeding into this weird paranoia act is, well, it's sad.

With OLTL and AMC back online (something I worked diligently for), I am still making time for GH, because soaps matter. I'm also doing this thing called adjusting. You should try it.

Traci Kishbaugh
6/28/2013 10:58:22 am

Thank you Amanda! You nailed it! Said everything perfectly. You're right. Before RC took over, the show was HORRIBLE!

Anne
6/28/2013 11:04:37 am

Actually the article is correct, GH is no longer about anything other than Ron Carlivati's OLTL love affair. He has destroyed what once was GH and that is what the article is stating.....The article is written for lifelong GH fans. It has nothing to do with adjusting. It has to do with the GH characters being disses,insulted, put on the back burner, and it also is the same for the fans. And of course you would respond the way you did as a 30 year OLTL fan and you are incorrect. GH didn't start going downhill until OLTL took over. I love the actors from OLTL that are on GH, but it's about fairness and it's about having respect, as a writer, for BOTH groups of fans. Mr. Carlivati isn't doing that....that's the issue. If it was OLTL and Gh was cancelled and all of the sudden Maurice Bernard, Laura Wright, and Anthony Geary were cast to OLTL and then all of the sudden the main characters on OLTL were getting axed or put on the back burner, then perhaps you would understand....

Traci Kishbaugh
6/28/2013 11:12:40 am

Anne,

I've been watching GH for over 30 years. From your posts, I can only assume you've been watching since the mob stuff started in the 90's when Sonny first came on the show. While I love MB, I can tell you that I remember good writing (pre-Guza) and what we are getting now IS good writing. Guza's material was HORRIBLE. And you're wrong about it becoming OLTL because there are only THREE actors from the show on GH--versus HOW MANY current GH actors? Plus the OLTL actors are playing different characters now. Let's be fair and do the math here. And since when are Sonny & Carly on the back-burner? Heck, ever since Roger/Franco has been on, all I see is Sonny & Carly almost every day. I'd love to see some of my favorites.

Jacqueline link
6/28/2013 11:04:18 am

I'm so over these types of postings that only puts down a show that MANY still enjoy, just to cater to your opinion. Why not support the only soap left on ABC, & support the actors that are still there?

zan
6/28/2013 11:10:27 am

I don't care what anyone says, I am loving Roger Howarth as Franco. I have not been a daily viewer of General Hospital in a very long time, but now I cannot wait to tune it every day! I don't like Sam, or Carly, so anyone who vexes them just makes me laugh. And to top it all off Franco is now a Quartermain!!! I LOVE IT!!! and they had a typical, wonderful Quartermain "to do" in the Quartermain living room and even Franco knows that "it's Monica's house, Alan gave it to her." I am enjoying GH more than ever!!! keep the fun rolling!!! thank you

Samantha
6/28/2013 11:26:57 am

I think it's absolutely ridiculous to have this need to have Roger Howarth and Kristen Alderson as father and daughter. It was one thing with Todd and Starr but to do this again as Franco and Kiki? They don't have to be related on every thing that they appear together.
I am for one who's not thrilled that Roger Howarth replaced James Franco as Franco. Roger deserves much better than that. They could've made a brand new character with a connection with a regular like someone who's not Franco.

Traci Kishbaugh
6/28/2013 11:31:59 am

No, it's not needed, but I think soaps do that kind of thing to make the transition easier for the viewers. It's a transition thing, I think so it makes us more accepting of characters.

Rosanna
6/28/2013 11:39:01 am

Roger you can play anybody and still make me laugh, honestly your a great actor who did not have a choice in the mess that PROSPECT PARK made, what was ABC supposed to do lose 3 great actors?? Ill say im not liking this triangle with Michael/Morgan/ Kiki, but other then that to me the show is great and oh fyi Bradford Anderson wanted to go to recurring he said so himself on twitter, if your all mad at Ron Carlivati then tell him, give him ideas, when I tweeted I would love to see a Carly/Todd pairing the idea came to life and if it was from my idea I do not know but was happy to see that. Roger just keep acting to the best of your ability, other then that the lawsuits is out of our hands, till the dust settles with that just keep on watching GH.

Robby Shelton
6/28/2013 12:09:38 pm

while i think agree with some of the things that were said in the article i must say that nothing so bad has happened on the show that i will stop watching. first of all, three members from OLTL hardly translates into taking over the show. also, have we forgotten that soaps are no longer the cash cows of yesteryear and have tight budgets? i'm sorry but we live in a time now where vets cannot be on everyday because they get paid too much. when Jack Wagner first came on he said that he was not interested in anything long term so Cartini played the hand that they were dealt. another thing, casting RH as Franco was a risky move but one that has people talking (whether for it or against it). i think that RH is more than up to the challenge of redeeming Franco (lest we forget that he did it already on OLTL as Todd) and for the last almost 33 years we have been rooting for another rapist on GH and had no problem with that (Luke Spencer for the uninitiated). Gloria Monty took an unredeemable character at the time and made the all time best supercouple. had she bent to public opinion at the time then we would have no Luke and Laura, i think that KA is doing a better job as Kiki than she did with Starr but the jury is still out on Silas. i have been watching soaps for most of my life (over 30 years) and i think that part of the awesomeness is seeing where the story goes and not just bailing in the middle because i don't initially like the story. if you want to turn your TV off for what amounts to b*llsh*t then go right ahead but i am sticking with the show and seeing where this takes me ...

Finch
6/28/2013 12:35:16 pm

AMEN! People act like three characters makes up a whole cast.

Gina link
6/28/2013 12:10:47 pm

IVW WATCHED FOR 33YEARS AND THIS IS THE WORST THAT GH HAS EVER BEEN GUZA WAS BAD BUT RC AND FV R SO MUCH WORSE THESE RIDICULOUS STORYLINE LIKE WATCHING SOMEONE GO THRU HIGH SCHOOL THE WRITING IS AMATEURISH AT BEST REPETITIVE FROM OLTL THEY R THE RUINATION OF GH THE UNHOLY TRIO DON'T BELONG BUT THEY R PET FARTS AND RC AND FV WET DREAM THE SHOW IS DISGUSTING PATHETIC AND THERE R NEWBIES MORE SO THAN THE OLD ONE AS FAR AS BRINGING THE VETS BACK IT SUCKED WORST MONSTER BALL EVER I HOPE GH IS CANCELLED AND THIS WILL PUT EVERYONE OUT OF MISERY WORST SOAP ON TV AND INCOMPETENT TPTB THAT IS Y ABC IS LAST THE NET WORK SUCKS

Finch
6/28/2013 12:33:25 pm

I think people are bi*ching over nothing. Soaps do crossovers all the time, which is what they did with OLTL and GH when OLTL was cancelled. Then it was found out that GH couldn't use those characters so they made new ones, who cares? All three are playing their new characters to the best of their abilities, making things interesting again, not to mention new characters are added to soap opera's all the time, even with actors/actresses that had been on other soaps. GET OVER IT, PEOPLE! I think everyone is just complaining about nothing. I feel I also have to mention that Roger Howarth has been on many soaps. Guiding Light, OLTL, As The World Turns and GH. So why does it matter? He hasn't always strictly been OLTL and so have a lot of other actors.

lulu
6/28/2013 12:35:20 pm

I don't want GH cancelled, not after watching it since '63 when it first started. Those people are family, and if it was cancelled, I don't know how some of us oldies would survive, no kidding. BUT, they really need to keep it believable, and NOT go into this cousin thing w/ Michael & Kiki. That's sick. Also, do something about Franco....make him a Q cousin. Am sick about some of them leaving (Spinelli....love him), or the recurring roles. We want them back & on all the time. Please. GH was # 1 because it was once good and the actors that made it good need to come back & stay back. Can't believe Jason is gone....just not the same, and Sam is just lost & not the same without Jason. Please don't let her get with that stupid pony tailed Dr. The Maxi pregnancy is stupid...that storyline needs to end somehow & let Maxi & Lulu stay close, at least. Soo much has changed, but I can't stop watching...not ever, so hope it's never cancelled....just too many of us old fans out here., and I refuse to watch one more dumb talk show. They are wayyyy overdone.

angie
6/28/2013 01:03:03 pm

I'm a OLTL fan. When ABC cancelled OLTL, I tried watching GH (because I used to be a fan) but couldn't quite get into it, especially with them throwing Todd, Starr and McBain into the mix. It didn't work for me. And I was happy that some characters (Anna, Robert) were back. But trying to remake GH using OLTL actors when Prospect Park has managed to revive OLTL is stupid. ABC killed AMC and OLTL, it looks like Carlivati is going to kill GH. That's a shame. All I can say is write letters, write to the sponsors you see advertising. You might be able to make a change because we Livers complained and called and wrote and while the new OLTL isn't exactly the same, it's still fun TV to watch. Soap fans have loud voices.

Angie
6/28/2013 01:12:19 pm

I read somewhere that it will be revealed that Franco and Jason aren't really brothers. I think that will be an interesting story. Been a fan for 49 years and I like the way they are putting more stories and characters into GH. There is more scenes in the hospital like there used to be. I was sick of seeing nobody but Sonny and Jason. This is GH not the Sopranos.

Malia
6/28/2013 01:24:37 pm

I'm starting to think that most of these comments are in response to other comments versus the actual article, because I don't find it to be biased. I read the "GH in 2013" article that was mentioned and it appears the author wasn't a fan of Guza's head-writing either. I think he or she just wants it to be equal for everyone. They actually gave credit to Cartini for boosting ratings in it.

Darlene
6/28/2013 01:36:08 pm

I've been a fan of both GH and OLTL for years, but I did quit watching GH for a few years because that stupid Mob storyline was just getting boring! I even started calling GH the Sopranos wanna be! I watch OLTL on Hulu and when Roger Howarth came on GH, I started watching that show again too. I think it's great that he gets to play two different villains. I've NEVER liked Sonny or Jason, and glad they finally decided not to do as much of the whole mob thing!

Rita
6/28/2013 08:20:00 pm

Gotta love the conspiracy theories...that's what great soaps are made of, isn't it? We digress from the fact that ABC and PP could not come to an agreement regarding the characters of Todd, Starr and McBain; for this you blame the writers? How about trashing ABC and PP? GH is the only show I watch on ABC; I haven't even jumped over to PP to watch OLTL or AMC because it's not convenient at this time. I hope it works. But if you pay attention to GH, you will notice that they do bring back the old with the new, pay homage to the storylines, etc. Just because you all have your panties in a bunch about those 3 wonderful actors who made the transition from OLTL to GH and you all had your complaints about it from day 1, you can't argue that GH isn't better for it. The ratings show it.

GINA link
6/28/2013 08:37:43 pm

ANNE AGREE WITH WHAT U SAID AS FOR RATINGS THEY HAVE SUNK WHEN U NO LONGER CAN STOMACH WHAT'S ON SREEN U TURN IT OFF WHICH IS WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DONE AND WILL CONTINUE IF I HAD WANTED TO WATCH OLTL I WOULD HAVE BUT WAIT OLTL IS NOW GH THE MOB DIDN'T DESTROY GH GUZA DID JUST LIKE RC AND FV R DESTROYING GH NOW IT SUCKS THEY KNOW IT AND SO DO THE FANS IF THEY WANT SILLY ASS S/L GO BACK TO OLTL Y DO U THINK IT WAS CANCELLED POOR WRITING AND RC AND FV MY WISH IS FOR GH 2 B CANCELLED HOW MANY VETS R LEFT VS THE NEWBIES U WANNA CANCEL A SOAP HIRE FV AND RC

TLW
6/29/2013 06:49:15 am

Frankly, GH's ratings were in the toilet and the show was un-watchable before OLTL was even canceled. The only reason I feel GH was spared at that time was the 50th Anniversary coming up this year. OLTL's actors and characters moving over actually brought ratings up for GH, since OLTL was the highest rated of all three ABC/Disney soaps.

GINA link
6/29/2013 12:18:17 pm

RATINGS R 1.8 HOW WILL RERON AND RANK SPIN THIS I HOPE THEY CONTINUE TO TANK

Lola
6/30/2013 03:12:41 am

GH is such a joke i stopped watching when the holy trio came back aka oltl pets. It's hilarious to me that the same people who complained and hated Guza's pets are now praising RC's pets hypocrites much?

Lola
6/30/2013 03:20:59 am

I just feel bad for GH it's such a joke and so damn campy. Vampires and relish really? Guza was horrible but wow did he wrote good storylines I haven't seen a good storyline on GH since ....... People fall in love in days yuck at Michael and Kiki! Michael Easton should not be paired with someone who still looks like she's in her 20's the man is not attractive at all and because they worked together 10 yrs ago doesn't mean they have to be
forced together again! RIDICULOUS .. Roger Howarth as franco lmaooo James Franco should feel offended that's all! Uhm yea cancel it already its sad

Gia link
6/30/2013 08:35:36 pm

9 ORIGINAL ACTORS HAVE LEFT OR BEEN LET GO SINCE THESE 2PRICKS CAME ON AGENDA ANYONE IT'S BEGINNING TO LOOK A LOT LIKE OLTL9.0 SO DISGUSTING AND PATHETIC TPTB R SO INCOMPETENT THEY WONDER Y GH IS LAST AND THE NETWORK IS LAST SO AGREE WITH WHAT U SAID LOLA I WOULD RATHER GH WAS CANCELLED THAN B SUBJECTED TO THIS CRAP THE CORE AND ESSENCE WERE DESTROYED AND THE CHARACTERS TRUE NATURE LIKE I SAID U WANT A SOAP DESTROYED HIRE RERON AND RANK

Traci Kishbaugh
7/1/2013 03:13:36 am

Gia, first of all, your first sentence is false. There is only one original character left, and that is Audrey. She hasn't been on in years except for the anniversary show. Second, I'm not sure where you are getting "9" from. If there have been that many, they aren't any characters I've missed. If anything, they've brought on more characters than they've let go.

Also, I can't imagine anyone wanting a show to be canceled. Do you know how many people that would put out of work? The show is finally being improved. If you don't like it, fine. It's your opinion. Don't watch if you don't like it. But please don't ruin it for those of us who are enjoying the show.

Scotchkiss
7/1/2013 04:15:46 am

The three actors in question made national news in a time when soaps can barely get a mention in a tv magazine. TPTB have been capitalizing on the situation, which has put GH in the forefront. That's just common sense and good business sense. I see nothing wrong with it.

Gina link
7/1/2013 06:05:44 am

Traci I state my Opinion and my Opinion only If U don't like it Oh Well Don't read it I don't respond to what people say its there business I stand by everything I wrote and U don't agree so what Most of the people don't like GH the way it is If U do watch it I don't have to agree nor do I respond The 3 Amigos most don't like them and feel GH is OLTL the people who R gone one way or the other Kim M Burton Reeves Barash Berman Andserson chose to go on contract I wonder why Sullivan need I say more

Traci Kishbaugh
7/1/2013 06:30:09 am

Gina, wait...you're allowed to reply to others and state your opinion, but I'm not? And it isn't MOST people who don't like GH. It seems to be a select group.

And as for the people who have left....Like I said before, they are NOT "original" characters like you stated in your last post. And Kimberly had already decided to leave on her own before Ron & Frank took over. It had nothing to do with them. She wanted to pursue her education in directing. Steve B. left on his own to "spend time with his family" (His words), although I think it was just because he wanted to go where JFP (Who I couldn't stand) is. Bradford Anderson is NOT gone. He chose to go recurring. BTW, you only mentioned 6.

Personally, I don't think you can site people leaving as a reason to hate Ron & Frank's stuff. All soaps do it. It comes with the territory. As for those who left on their own, none have stated Ron or Frank as the reason, so it's only speculation on your part. They've done more for GH in such a short time than Guza ever did. I didn't even recognize the show when he wrote. It turned into "General Mob."

Like it or not, the truth is Ron & Frank saved GH from the chopping block. If it weren't for them, you wouldn't have a show to watch or complain about and many more people would be out of work. The writing has been amazing. I can see a huge difference. The cast is happy, and so are most of the fans. If people keep complaining and cause trouble, GH WILL be canceled and then the same people complaining about the show now will be complaining that their show is gone. Fans need to be supportive of the show now more than ever.

Lola
7/1/2013 08:06:36 am

Traci lol just lol

GINA link
7/1/2013 07:35:37 am

TRACI WHO U LIKE AND I LIKE DOESN'T MATTER U LIKE THE SHOW I DONT NOR DO I HAVE TOO IF U WANT TO RESPOND TO WHAT I SAY GO RIGHT AHEAD HAVE AT IT U HAVE A RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION JUST LOKE I DO THEY DESTROYED GH IN MY OPINION U DISAGREE THEYNR WORSE THAN GUZA U DISAGREE WHO R THE SELECT FEW LONG TIME GH VETS RERON AND RANK SUCK MY OPINION SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM MY OPINION IS MINE U BELIEVE WHAT U WANT AND SO WILL I HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER BE A FAN OF RERON AND RANK FOR THOSE WHO LEFT TIME WILL TELL U FEEL THEY HAVE DONE A LOT YOUR OPINION I THINK THEY DESTROYED IT WHETHER SPEC OR NOT IT IS BEING PLAYED OUT THIS HAS TURNED INTO OLTL GUZA WAS BAD THEY R WORSE ,NOW I CAN KEEP AT THIS ALL DAY IF U WANT FREE SPEECH AND WILL GH WILL IN TIME CANCEL ITSELF IT'S A WAITING GAME I EXPECT MORE FROM A SOAP THAN ALICE IN WONDERLAND AND CARTOON

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Traci Kishbaugh
7/1/2013 08:48:51 am

Gina, first, please stop yelling at me. There is no reason to be so hostile. Second, you're wrong when you say I disagree who the vets are. My issue was that you originally called them "original" characters, which they aren't. If they were, they'd be in their 60's or 70's.

The show has NOT turned into OLTL. They only have THREE OLTL actors AND they're playing different characters. That would be like saying that now that Stever B. is on Y&R, then it is now GH. And what you don't seem to get is that GH was going to get canceled. It only got a reprieve thanks to Ron & Frank. Even the cast members understand that. I've seen their tweets. The show now has more vets on than it has in years and is not a cartoon.

As for the three actors from OLTL, if you don't like them, fine. Not everyone does. BUT I don't know how you can complain about them taking up a lot of air time. It's not ok for them but it was ok when Sonny, Jason, Carly, Michael and Sam took up all the airtime for years? We're finally getting a change. They sure have gotten GH a lot of publicity, and that is good for the show. And I'm not sure who said it on here, but Roger Howarth is NOT doing Todd. I watched him play Todd for years, and the way he plays Franco (a totally unlikeable character before) is different.

Guza left Frank & Ron with a mess to deal with, and that takes time. They spent months fixing Guza's stuff before they're own stuff even hit the air. I haven't seen a show turn around this fast in a long time.

Gina link
7/1/2013 09:38:22 am

This is not Hostile I Disagree with everything U say as U disagree with what I say the show SUCKS in my Opinion Say what U want Worst Soap on Tv They turned it into OLTl Now I'm DOne with this CRAP U have your Opinion I have mine

Renee
7/1/2013 12:05:54 pm

i just think it's sad what GH has become. I have always been able to ride out bad storylines involving my favorites because i usually could find something else that would grab my attention. i have been a loyal viewer for many many years and i have STOPPED watching as of Edward's dying.
So many things have upset me since this regime has taken over. Edward should have gotten an on air funeral. So should Jason. My God Jason had been on the show 20 something years and these writers made it like he was nothing other than a day player. Hell Trey's death was written with more emotion. That is terrible.
The week the 3 came on the show the first time i knew that there would be problems with favoritism. ROBIN died, a character that I literally watched grow up on this show and STARR got more focus loosing her family(cant remember their names sorry). I did not watch the other show, i could have cared less that they died or that Starr was sad for that matter. i did not care about STARR, this is GH for crying out loud.
Then the Jason and Sam's baby storyline was ruined for John McBain. I am sorry, but for this reason alone I will never be able to support a Kelly M and Micheal E pairing no matter what they call him. i understand that no one is promised any storyline, but come on, to take something that alot of fans had waited YEARS to see and gut it for another actor is wrong. No matter how hard i try, i just cannot get passed it.
Todd and Carly made no sense. Franco and carly will make even less. How could any mother even consider being with the man who was linked to her son's rape. No matter the rewrite i know what really happened and the concept of these two paired is disgusting to me as a mother of a son.
A far as STarr/Kiki, i honestly just dont care. I dont want to know her, think it's sick to put her with Micheal and them think they are cousins even if they are not.

Why if we need more Q's could.Emily not be brought back, or Brooklyn, or Ned, or Dillion. Someone that I as a longtime fan would care about already. Why do i or should I want to sit thru scene after scene of Franco/Ava/kiki going on about crap i care nothing about.
I am sorry to break it to Ron and Frank but Franco is not a leading man type character. HE IS A PSYCHOTIC MURDERING FREAK. He can not be whitewashed for me ever. Silas is not needed, sure Sam should move on but why does it have to be with someone played by Micheal Easton. Sam needs someone age appropriate in looks and someone hot. I am sorry but Silas is none of those things.

As far as ratings being up. They did not rise when those 3 initially came on the show. Ratings began rising with the time change, the return of Jason and Sam's baby, and the climax of that storyline, Robin being shown alive, Duke/Fiason and Anna.

The ratings continued to go up with the hoopla over the 50th and the return of Frisco, Lucy, Kevin, Duke, Anna, Laura, Scotty ect..That rolled into the nurses ball and all the print and tv promo associated with those events.

So now those events are over, the bait and switch with the vets is obvious, and the smoke and mirrors are gone. WE are now left with Ron and Franks vision for GH, and they have lost all the gains made but 8,000 viewers and are in 4th place out of 4 soaps in the important demos and overall viewers.

Traci Kishbaugh
7/2/2013 12:08:33 am

Renee,

First of all, Robin is NOT dead. She did NOT die. Second, keep in mind that the first 6 months after Ron & Frank started on the show, it was STILL Guza's storylines we were seeing. A lot of what you see had been put into play by him.

Lastly, cross-over characters are done all the time. They are done to bring in viewers from the other show. I can understand why people who didn't watch OLTL are upset, but it did bring in viewers, some of whom have grown to love GH. You have a right to your feelings, but please respect ours. What if the roles were reversed?

LM CEE
7/2/2013 07:26:44 am

ITA!! With everything you said. That is why I no longer watch. I am hoping that the ratings continue to drop and TPTB will do something about it. Viewership matters and I will NOT continue to give them mine. If we continue to watch the crap they keep giving us then nothing will change.

Gina link
7/1/2013 08:31:20 pm

Renee U said it all with comments Agree with everything U said That's what turned me off Jason's baby story to gut a VET for your Pet Fart Horrible but when U have an AGENDA and it FAILS and still continue to write the same crap something is wrong with TPTB Incompetence

Dana
7/2/2013 12:06:08 am

JaTank was the lowest rated pairing in GH history. They went as far as killing a child and firing a popular actress to force their success and they still bombed.

Traci Kishbaugh
7/2/2013 12:13:20 am

Right, Dana. And don't forget ruining Luke in the process. The fact that they killed Jake & kept Josslyn, who we rarely see & I couldn't care less about should tell you something.

jake the mistake
7/2/2013 07:32:28 am

Dana I agree Jiz was the lowest rated pairing. That is when the ratings started to fall. When they were paired. 2008 was one of lowest rated year because Jiz was so boring. Jake the mistake should of NEVER happened.

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